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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199761808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199761808">(Jun 04 2020 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>So <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> there are two things I don't like about MCPs "as practiced today". </p>
<p>The first is that we often put the design in an "out of line hackmd or gist", and the template is maybe too wordy. I find it's kind of hard to find the actual proposal in there, it's often just a short little link. Worse, when the proposal is <strong>accepted</strong>, we don't have a good like "record" of accepted proposals.</p>
<p>The second is that it seems to be nobody's job to tag and close the issues when the FCP ends. I often go over them during compiler-team meetings. I think that <a class="stream" data-stream-id="227806" href="/#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler.2Fwg-prioritization">#t-compiler/wg-prioritization</a> could perhaps handle this though. </p>
<p>I think my proposal is that:</p>
<ul>
<li>we modify the template to be shorter and to tell people to copy-and-paste the proposal at the end, after a <code>&lt;br&gt;</code> section or something</li>
<li>when a MCP is accepted, we tag it with "MCP accepted" and we close it</li>
</ul>
<p>Now we have a record (in the form of the issue header) of the MCP.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199761834" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199761834">(Jun 04 2020 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>This also fits with what we've been discussing in the lang team process.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199762000" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199762000">(Jun 04 2020 at 15:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would flip the proposal to be the first thing in the issue description rather than the last thing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199762146" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199762146">(Jun 04 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure/near/199761808">said</a>:</p>
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<p>So <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> there are two things I don't like about MCPs "as practiced today". </p>
<p>The first is that we often put the design in an "out of line hackmd or gist", and the template is maybe too wordy. I find it's kind of hard to find the actual proposal in there, it's often just a short little link. Worse, when the proposal is <strong>accepted</strong>, we don't have a good like "record" of accepted proposals.</p>
<p>The second is that it seems to be nobody's job to tag and close the issues when the FCP ends. I often go over them during compiler-team meetings. I think that <a class="stream" data-stream-id="227806" href="/#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler.2Fwg-prioritization">#t-compiler/wg-prioritization</a> could perhaps handle this though. </p>
<p>I think my proposal is that:</p>
<ul>
<li>we modify the template to be shorter and to tell people to copy-and-paste the proposal at the end, after a <code>&lt;br&gt;</code> section or something</li>
<li>when a MCP is accepted, we tag it with "MCP accepted" and we close it</li>
</ul>
<p>Now we have a record (in the form of the issue header) of the MCP.</p>
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<p>I think we can definitely do that work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199762208" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199762208">(Jun 04 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure/near/199762000">said</a>:</p>
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<p>I would flip the proposal to be the first thing in the issue description rather than the last thing</p>
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<p>yeah I considered that -- seems ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199762267" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199762267">(Jun 04 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>the main reason I was thinking "end" is that it gives us a chance to explain what the issue is first, but that's not necessary I guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199762338" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199762338">(Jun 04 2020 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>couldn't we just have a template that is more like a link to some explanations/rules/etc and then the proposal per se?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199762924" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199762924">(Jun 04 2020 at 15:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the template would be like</p>
<h2>Proposal</h2>
<p>(insert your proposal here)</p>
<h2>Process</h2>
<p>This is a Major Change Proposal. It is used to propose a change to the compiler. It works like this:</p>
<ul>
<li>Open this issue. A zulip stream will be automatically created for discussing the issue.</li>
<li>To approve the proposal, a compiler team member/contributor can write <code>@rustbot second</code>. The issue then goes into FCP for 10 days.</li>
<li>At the end of the 10 days, the MCP is approved, and the issue will (eventually) be closed.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Note that this issue is meant to be used for status updates, not discussion. Discussion takes place on Zulip.</strong> You can <a href="http://XXX">read more about Major Change Proposals on forge</a>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199762941" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199762941">(Jun 04 2020 at 15:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>short and simple enough</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199769078" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199769078">(Jun 04 2020 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199769249" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199769249">(Jun 04 2020 at 16:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure/near/199761808">said</a>:</p>
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<p>The second is that it seems to be nobody's job to tag and close the issues when the FCP ends. I often go over them during compiler-team meetings. I think that <a class="stream" data-stream-id="227806" href="/#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler.2Fwg-prioritization">#t-compiler/wg-prioritization</a> could perhaps handle this though. </p>
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<p>can you explain also the different states and when things change from one to another?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199769353" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199769353">(Jun 04 2020 at 16:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't remember if just one person seconding a proposal is what we need to call it accepted and then tag and close or what's the thing we need to do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199769505" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199769505">(Jun 04 2020 at 16:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>in any case, we have our prioritization procedure, I'm going to write something about this there and maybe once done you can take a look at it to confirm if it's right or not</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199909808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199909808">(Jun 05 2020 at 17:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>so about accepted MCPs, what I can do after weekly meetings is ... go over the list that are seconded and if we're over 10 days just tag them with <code>major-change-accepted</code> and close them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199909879" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199909879">(Jun 05 2020 at 17:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>also, there are a lot of accepted and closed issues with no <code>major-change-accepted</code> tag</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199909894" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199909894">(Jun 05 2020 at 17:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can also go over them and tag now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199909899" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199909899">(Jun 05 2020 at 17:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> please confirm that this is correct</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199909952" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199909952">(Jun 05 2020 at 17:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>actually, maybe we should more clearly state that the waiting period is 10 days + remaining days for next weekly meeting, so it may even be 16 days</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199910122" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199910122">(Jun 05 2020 at 17:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>it may be good idea to make this clear, so people know what to expect :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199921487" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199921487">(Jun 05 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the waiting period is 10 days</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199921505" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199921505">(Jun 05 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>somewhere in those 10 days, a meeting occurs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199921560" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199921560">(Jun 05 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I also think it's fine if we close them on some schedule so sometimes they stay "open" longer</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199921581" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199921581">(Jun 05 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>ideally, we'd post a comment after 10 days</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199921592" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199921592">(Jun 05 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>(automatically)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199921594" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199921594">(Jun 05 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>although the question is:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199921610" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199921610">(Jun 05 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's possible that during those 10 days someone may have raised a concern</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199921631" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199921631">(Jun 05 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>we don't have automation around that right now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199921638" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199921638">(Jun 05 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's never happened yet :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199921646" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199921646">(Jun 05 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>and it could sort of happen on zulip</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199921682" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199921682">(Jun 05 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess that we could/should clarify the "process" there if we want</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199921708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199921708">(Jun 05 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could also post a comment saying something like</p>
<blockquote>
<p>The 10 days have expired. Assuming no objections were raised here or on Zulip, the MCP is accepted, and someone will come along and close the issue in a few days.</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199934184" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199934184">(Jun 05 2020 at 21:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199934256" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199934256">(Jun 05 2020 at 21:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure/near/199921505">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>somewhere in those 10 days, a meeting occurs</p>
</blockquote>
<p>what I meant is that, given that we will close after a weekly meeting it may end being more than 10 days</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199934278" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199934278">(Jun 05 2020 at 21:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>but yeah, ideally we would be doing that in 10 days or we would be automating it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/199934289" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#199934289">(Jun 05 2020 at 21:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, should I label closed accepted proposals?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200150260" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200150260">(Jun 08 2020 at 20:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes please</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200150270" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200150270">(Jun 08 2020 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I forgot we had a label!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200151490" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200151490">(Jun 08 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>Posted a new template: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/305">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/pull/305</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200151507" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200151507">(Jun 08 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span>, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span>, take a look maybe?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200153086" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200153086">(Jun 08 2020 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span>, I've seen you have done some reviews already but looks good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200153140" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200153140">(Jun 08 2020 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks for adding the "accepted" labels btw</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200153772" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200153772">(Jun 08 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>btw unsure about <code>T-compiler</code> labels there, there are some with <code>T-compiler</code> and others without it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200153804" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200153804">(Jun 08 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>but also I was wondering isn't everything <code>T-compiler</code> there?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200153834" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200153834">(Jun 08 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe it's irrelevant, unsure :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200154593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200154593">(Jun 08 2020 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah we should just add it in the template</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200154597" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200154597">(Jun 08 2020 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>the only reason to have it is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200154605" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200154605">(Jun 08 2020 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>if you do rfcbot fcp merge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200154609" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200154609">(Jun 08 2020 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>it is needed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200546846" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200546846">(Jun 11 2020 at 13:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> , on the subject of the MCP procedure: How hard would it be to automatically add a link to the associated Zulip thread from the MCP issue? Right now the template references "A Zulip topic in the stream <code>#t-compiler/major changes</code> will be created for this issue", but there's no standard place for a link to that Zulip topic, let alone a bot-generated link</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200547086" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200547086">(Jun 11 2020 at 13:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure what's the bot that does that exactly but I guess it should be easy to do it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200547162" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200547162">(Jun 11 2020 at 13:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span>  implemented this ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200547275" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200547275">(Jun 11 2020 at 13:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>generating the link proved pretty hard when I was initially doing this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200547289" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200547289">(Jun 11 2020 at 13:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I may have been missing something though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200547461" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200547461">(Jun 11 2020 at 13:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>ohh really?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/200547488" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#200547488">(Jun 11 2020 at 13:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd have thought that it was gonna be easy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/202561843" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#202561843">(Jul 01 2020 at 12:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>Should MCPs be created for compiler team RFCs?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/202561906" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#202561906">(Jul 01 2020 at 12:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure that many compiler team members are subscribed to the rfcs repo to receive the relevant notifications automatically.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/202561989" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#202561989">(Jul 01 2020 at 12:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>And regular "ping @rust-lang/compiler" is such an old way to ping people that most of them developed immunity to it long ago.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/202574357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#202574357">(Jul 01 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like it doesn't make sense to make both, but I think you could easily open a topic in the <a class="stream" data-stream-id="233931" href="/#narrow/stream/233931-t-compiler.2Fmajor-changes">#t-compiler/major changes</a> stream if you wanted to help draw attention to it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/209026435" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#209026435">(Sep 03 2020 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ok, it looks like RFC as a process is effectively retired for the compiler team now.<br>
All T-Compiler PRs to the RFC repo are stalled for months - <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3AT-compiler+sort%3Aupdated-desc">https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3AT-compiler+sort%3Aupdated-desc</a> (except for the aarch64 tier, which is mostly about infra).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/209026529" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#209026529">(Sep 03 2020 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll submit the one that I care about ("Linking modifiers for native libraries") as an MCP instead.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/209105073" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#209105073">(Sep 04 2020 at 15:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123856">@Vadim Petrochenkov</span> that...is probably correct</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/209105089" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#209105089">(Sep 04 2020 at 15:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I didn't even realize those RFCs were there -- or at least I forgot -- I'm sorry</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/209105108" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#209105108">(Sep 04 2020 at 15:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we should add them to the triage meeting...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/218339758" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#218339758">(Nov 30 2020 at 20:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>Another update: accepted MCPs live forever.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/218339818" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#218339818">(Nov 30 2020 at 20:17)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/356">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/356</a> ("Accept RFC 2951 "Linking modifiers for native libraries"") was accepted month ago, but the PR still open and the RFC is still open too.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/218340042" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#218340042">(Nov 30 2020 at 20:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was waiting just to test how long can an MCP be in this state, but waiting for a month should probably be enough.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/218494460" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#218494460">(Dec 01 2020 at 23:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>normally they get closed as part of triage process, I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/218494462" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#218494462">(Dec 01 2020 at 23:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>not sure why this one is still open..</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/218494488" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#218494488">(Dec 01 2020 at 23:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>but thanks! closed and marked as accepted</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/218494510" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#218494510">(Dec 01 2020 at 23:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>which PR is it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/218495795" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#218495795">(Dec 01 2020 at 23:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I meant the MCP issue, not PR, apologies.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/218495823" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#218495823">(Dec 01 2020 at 23:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>The RFC PR (<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2951">https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2951</a>) is still open though.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/224386202" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#224386202">(Jan 28 2021 at 20:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sigh, the RFC PR (<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2951">https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2951</a>) was closed rather than merged, no tracking issue was created.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/224386330" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#224386330">(Jan 28 2021 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've reopened the RFC so someone with write rights to the RFC repo could merge it, and created a tracking issue (<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/81490">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/81490</a>).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/224692767" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#224692767">(Feb 01 2021 at 07:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>ping <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="492">@T-compiler</span> members with write rights to the RFC repo regarding ^^^</p>
<p>(I had the rights in the past, but apparently they were removed during some rights management reform. Regardless, it wouldn't seem right to merge my own RFC.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/224764626" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#224764626">(Feb 01 2021 at 17:51)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123856">@Vadim Petrochenkov</span> i'll take care of it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/224764692" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#224764692">(Feb 01 2021 at 17:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>apologies for the misunderstanding :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/228855274" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#228855274">(Mar 04 2021 at 21:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure/near/224764626">said</a>:</p>
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<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="123856">Vadim Petrochenkov</span> i'll take care of it</p>
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<p>ping <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> (it's been a month)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/228872924" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#228872924">(Mar 05 2021 at 00:01)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123856">@Vadim Petrochenkov</span> whoops, totally forgot</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/229018697" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#229018697">(Mar 05 2021 at 20:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123856">@Vadim Petrochenkov</span> fixed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP%20procedure/near/229025522" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Vadim Petrochenkov <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/MCP.20procedure.html#229025522">(Mar 05 2021 at 21:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks!</p>



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